w/ Mark Poppen, Funky Moose Records
We're diving deep into the vinyl revival with Mark Poppen, the man behind Funky Moose Records. If you've ever wondered why vinyl records are outselling CDs or how to make a dent in the eCommerce world, this chat's for you. Mark shares how he rode the wave of vinyl's resurgence and built an eCommerce empire. We delve into the nitty-gritty—from SEO tactics to dealing with suppliers and why sometimes, you've got to trust your gut over the data. Mark even spills the beans on how he navigated a near-crisis with a key distributor. It's a laid-back chat with serious insights. Don't miss it.
Kurt:
Welcome back, my friends. I'm your host, Kurt Elster,
Soudboard:
Tech Nasty!,
Kurt:
And today on the unofficial Shopify podcast, I have a bit of trivia for you. Did you know in 2021 vinyl outsold CDs as in vinyl records outsold compact discs? That I heard? That shocked me at first. And then I realized like, wait a second, who's buying CDs? But I was in Target over the weekend and they have an entire section devoted to vinyl. Meanwhile, best Buy has announced they're not even going to sell Blu-rays anymore starting next year. But Target has a dedicated vinyl section, and these are new records, and we bought a turntable for the first time this year, and I've been picking up some beat up records at flea markets and enjoying it. And so I have now set for us the perfect backdrop for our guest today, mark Poppin, who's the proprietor of a Shopify store called Funky Moose Records. Mark, welcome.
Mark:
Thank you. It's an honor to be here.
Kurt:
I am happy to have you here because you're someone in the vinyl business. Have you felt this impact of the vinyl revival?
Mark:
Yeah, I've actually been riding that wave. So the vinyl revival kind of started in 20 14, 15, right around the time I started the store. Yeah, the store has been growing ever since with the whole revival. Yeah, definitely.
Kurt:
Alright, so vinyl Rev starts 2014, and you've been at this how many years?
Mark:
In 2015? I started the store,
Kurt:
2015 you started. Okay. And what was the thing? Why start a vinyl record store? Especially now people understand that there's a real collector's market here. In the past though, I mean seven years ago, seven, eight years ago, not so much.
Mark:
No, it all started from, so my background is in web design and digital marketing, and back home in Holland where I grew up, I was always hanging around radio studios and the studio I was kind of growing up in, so to speak, because my dad hosted a show, there was a massive room of vinyl records, so I kind of grew up with knowing vinyl records. My dad had a record collection. And then when in 2008 I moved here with my wife to Canada, we sold everything, brought four suitcases here, and started from scratch basically. And come 20 13, 14, we were like, maybe we should get a turn table, could be fun. And I found one on the secondhand store for $5 because the lady at the counter didn't know what it was and didn't know how much it was worth. So bought it with a box of records.
And then for the longest time, that box of records, half of them sat beside my, and I was like, what am I going to do with these? And then switching over to my web designer mindset, it was like, wait a minute, I always wanted to sell something online. Why don't I sell these? So right before that, I had a mediocre experience with one of the big box retailers that sold vinyl records. And I was like, I can probably do this better. And so my first Google search was record distributor Canada, the first one that popped up. I looked up the phone number, gave him a call, and the rep on the other end was very inviting. He was like, oh, you're running a business? Yeah, it's a web design business. But he's like, ah, don't worry about it. Do you have a business number? I can sign you up.
I'm like, oh, okay. All that's going through my head is like, well, this could be cool if I get maybe a handful of orders or a handful of records. If I sell a handful of records in a month, I'd be happy. Scratch my itch of the e-commerce thing, and I can keep up with my e-commerce skills. The first order rolls in after eight days for four records. It's like, oh, that is already more than I anticipated. And the day after another order comes in, it's like, am I onto something here? So my first order was a couple of hundred dollars to fulfill the first few orders, and then it just snowballed from there.
Kurt:
You're a web designer, you have a collection of vinyl and you just on a whim thought, I bet I could sell these online. And it's easy to justify like, well, I'm gaining valuable skills here related to my current career. And in doing so, you were lucky you were able to find a distributor who was willing to be helpful. They have their own motive, they want you to be successful, they want to sell more records. And in doing that, what was that initial catalog?
Mark:
So after I started the build of the website, very basic, it was Shopify from the Get-go, and I grabbed a free theme from somewhere, I don't even remember, I think it was from the Shopify theme store.
Kurt:
It's probably the default, the theme it came with
Mark:
Probably. And then I was like, I don't know what to add to which records do I add? So that's where my sales rep came in handy and he was like, okay, this is a list of let's say the top a hundred records that we are selling. So it's likely that you are going to be selling these too. So I just started adding, and once I had that top a hundred added, I just started going through a catalog myself, and I was like, okay, I'm a queen fan, I want Queen Records on here. And then you hear a song on the radio, it's like, oh, I wonder if they have vinyl. You search it up in the database and yep, they do. So add all of those records. It was started on a whim and it was a pretty kind of surreal experience where it was like everybody, everything just came together and without a plan.
Kurt:
So you just jumped into it. What's the current issue? I have some records to sell. So the solution is store to store, Hey, I need more records. Find a distributor. Found one, started moving the records. Now hey, we have to expand the catalog. So it was a mix of what you were interested in, what was available and what was recommended to you.
Mark:
And it's also because I live in a rural community, so the closest record store to me is an hour away.
And here I'm thinking, well, if I'm in that boat, Canada is pretty big. So I figured, well, if I have this problem, I'm sure other record collectors have the same issue. And with the, like I said, mediocre experience that I had with a big box retailer and my research on, okay, how much competition would I have? At that time, there were maybe a handful of indie record stores that sold online. So I kind of put two and two together. It was like, I can probably do this, I can probably make this work. But I never thought that this would become my business, my actual business.
Kurt:
And you've got, alright, so your background was web design, but the theme that you're using, it appears to be just like Bone Standard Dawn, the default, you didn't go design crazy. A thing I have to respect you for,
Mark:
Actually the theme I'm using right now is a theme. It's a premium theme, but it's very similar to Dawn. Yeah.
Kurt:
All right. So I mistook it. It has a dawn look.
Mark:
Yes, it does, but it has a few features that Dawn doesn't. So yeah, this was actually the theme that I added in 2016.
Kurt:
As a web designer, you have an interesting background that a lot of the people, the entrepreneurs I've talked to don't What made you go with Shopify eight years ago
Mark:
In the past, I've set up e-commerce stores for clients, and a lot of them were through an open source. The updates were very hacky. You had to download the package, you had to overwrite through FTP, and it was a nightmare
Kurt:
Responsible for everything.
Mark:
Exactly. I just didn't want to take that responsibility. It didn't make sense for me to take all that responsibility. And that's also when I've been with Shopify for, well, since the inception basically. So my clients always had the option, do you want Shopify or do you want open source? Open source would be cheaper, but the maintenance will be higher. And of course, when you mentioned cheaper, people go for cheaper. So Shopify was always an option. I've been a Shopify partner since, I want to say 2012. Whenever the partnership program came in, I was one of the early, not as early as you, but I was one of the early partners. So Shopify was my own first choice when I started the store in 2015.
Kurt:
And do you still do web design? Do you offer web design services?
Mark:
I do. It's more pushing towards digital marketing. So I don't necessarily go build and design from scratch, but it is like I can set up a store, I can set up a website, but it's not completely 100% from scratch. So I do WordPress, I use Divvy to create the layouts of the websites, but I've transitioned more from the web design part to the marketing around, it's more like a whole big package than here's a website. Good luck with it.
Kurt:
And so I would assume that your experience on both sides helps advance the other, something works in Funky Moose, maybe this works for client work and vice versa.
Mark:
Yep, exactly. So part of my digital marketing offering is I'm now a Shopify coach, and it's exactly that. The things I learned through Funky Moose, if something works great, I make note of it and I tell my clients, I tried this and it works. You might want to try this too. Of course, that doesn't go for every client. Maybe it's very specific to what I'm trying to do, but, and then the other way around too, where a client tries something and tells me about it, I'm like, oh, I should probably put that on my store. That's a good idea.
Kurt:
Well, and then when you're able to put it to work yourself and see how it works and have that personal experience, that's very valuable. What types of marketing have worked best for Funky Moves?
Mark:
So of course I started with no plan, no budget, no nothing. So everything had to start organically. Luckily, the vinyl community is very small. A lot of people know each other. It's also pretty friendly. Even record stores don't see each other as competition much. And I'm still an advocate for the local record stores. Go support your local stores if you can. If you're in a city and you have a store around the corner, go check them out. So the whole community building, that's where it all started. Also started a Facebook group, Canadian record collectors. But before that, I was just part of smaller groups here and there, and I was just mentioning, I'm going to start an online store. Here's my landing page. If you sign up for the email newsletter, I'll let you know when we launch. And that's how I got the first few sales. And then from there, my SEO background came into play, where to this day, if you search online record store Canada Funky Moose is, if it's not the first one, it's the second or third. So it's doing very well there. And
Kurt:
I just tried it. I searched online record store Canada, and sure enough, you're number two.
Mark:
There you go. And that's where most of the traffic comes from. That's where most sales come from to this day. And then the second one was when the ads or when the sales started rolling in, I had some money to spend like, okay, now we need to do some ads. So I started with Google Ads right out of the bat. And the reason for that is that Facebook ads and Google ads are similar in price ish, but Google Ads have more intent. If someone is looking for Vinyl Records Canada, they're looking for vinyl records. So I want those people on my site. And if I spend the same amount of money on targeting record collectors on Facebook, well, they probably already have a bunch of records and they're just showing off what they already have. And I found that Facebook ads, they do return customers, but not as many as Google Ads would do.
Kurt:
Interesting. So Google shopping, high intent Facebook ads were preaching to the choir is what it sounds like.
Mark:
Yep. That's kind of the idea I got from the ads ran. There are a lot of comments on Facebook ads that Why are your records so expensive? I'm like, compared to what? And then they start comparing. It's like, oh, it's actually only a dollar more whatever then. But yeah, a lot of discussion going on those ads, which is valuable, showing that you're actually involved. It's harder to measure because if somebody sees an ad and then reads through the comments, leaves it alone, comes back to the comment, maybe leaves a comment and then places an order, then that sale isn't attributed to that Facebook ad anymore. It's still valuable. And I do think Facebook does convert still, but I'm spending less money on Facebook than I am on Google right now
Kurt:
With Facebook ads. You said, Hey, I'm going to keep spending that money because I'm seeing the engagement and because I think there are unattributed conversions happening. People who bought because they had that conversation with you in the ad, but that did not actually get attributed as a conversion in Facebook. How are you deciding where to put your marketing dollars then?
Mark:
This might sound stupid, we measure everything as digital marketers, but a lot of gut feeling. Thomas from Store Hero,
Kurt:
Thomas Gleason,
Mark:
I've had a chat with him, and you can see that the ROAS on Google Ads is higher than it is on Facebook ads. And I tried the whole organic thing on TikTok, but TikTok is not where my audience is. Instagram the same thing. Yes, there are people out there, there are record collectors on Instagram, but the majority of sales come through Google Ads. So why wouldn't I spend more on Google Ads to get more of those people converted into sales? I'd like your thoughts. I mean, you do this too.
Kurt:
I mean that's the problem with when you get, that's the danger of getting locked into, we do everything. I hear that a lot. Oh, we make data-driven decisions. And whether or not that's true seems to be unrelated to what someone will tell you. But when you get trapped into that, oftentimes you end up overlooking, passing on otherwise good ideas because you just didn't have a way to quantify and measure it. And what I'm hearing from you is like, hey, sometimes it could be subjective, sometimes it could be a hunch. And as long as you have that overall profit margin, as long as the business is healthy, if that's how we want to spend our marketing budget, that's fine. That's like when you start moving into those bigger, more holistic KPIs like marketing efficiency ratio or using a tool like Thomas's like Store Hero, where we're figuring out what is contribution margin on each sale on each product. Now we could be much less obsessed with, we have to see the positive Row ROAS on this specific ad where we're getting really granular. And it depends on the business and the approach. And here you're just going at it a little differently.
Mark:
Yeah, I dunno, maybe I'm weird, but it's also the reason we are doing a lot in the community. So for example, Joelle and I, so we host a podcast where we hang out with musicians on a weekly basis, our passion.
Kurt:
That's cool.
Mark:
So Joelle and I started the podcast in 2020 right before the pandemic hit. And we haven't missed a week since we're 2023. And because we are getting a lot of local artists, we're starting to get a lot of name recognition here in the province. And through that, there's a local musician, he's pretty popular. I don't know. Everybody look up the studies and Earl Pereira, he's the lead singer there. We've had him on the show twice, and he mentioned the second time, apparently in both episodes we mentioned that we in the future maybe wanted to organize a music festival. So Earl reached out to us after the second time we recorded with him, and he's like, so this music festival, when is that happening? And Joel and I were like, I don't know, I dunno. And he says, okay, August 7th, the studies are available. Do you want to book us for a headliner?
And we're like, maybe. So he called us on a Friday. So Joel and I put our heads together over the weekend. We booked three other artists, booked the venue here in town and called Earl back on Monday saying that let's do this. And knowing full well that these bands needed to be paid, and if it went sideways and nobody showed up, I had to pay for it. But it's kind of one of those gambles that put our name on the map because now this is year three of Moose Fest, our annual music festival, and we're already booking for 2024. So if you're talking about social proof, this is our social proof. We actually do something in the community because we got noticed as Moose Fest and Funky Moose Records. We are now also hosting an open stage, an open mic in the city where we were invited.
You can have the stage. It's been the longest running open stage in the city. The previous host got a new job or something, she had to bow out, and then we approached the owner of the venue saying that, could this be beneficial? And he's like, yep, it's all yours. You can advertise the hell out of whatever you're doing. Cross-pollinate the artists. You get on stage here, you might be able to book for your music festival and the guys you have on your podcast, you might want to bring 'em to come to the open stage. So it was like an organic holistic type of thing.
Kurt:
People say, oh, community involvement, build a community that's helped us grow our business. And I believe it because I've done it too. I've seen it. You have taken that so much further because same deal. It's like, all right, you started before the site has launched Day zero. Hey, I've got a newsletter. You can sign up for this to be informed, setting up this thing. It's a record store and you're involved in those local communities via Facebook groups. Alright, got it. That's step one, step two. Then the store launches. You create a Facebook group and you've got SEO efforts, the traditional digital marketing stuff going. You've got SEO efforts, you have Facebook ads, we have Google Shopping. Alright, now we go, we add a podcast into the mix. And you did the important part that everybody misses. You have never failed to publish an episode. That consistency is so critical. I am so proud of our show for having achieved that. And I know when I talked to the other successful podcast host, that is the trick. That is the magic that everybody's missing
Mark:
Is
Kurt:
You just have to keep doing it and inevitably you'll get better at it and you'll gain an audience next step. Now here's where things are getting really impressive. You're like, alright, we're going to host a concert. We're going to host a music festival, moose Fest. Oh, alright, brilliant. And then that's how, all right, we got a open, open mic we're going with as well. And you're like, you know what? The water's fine. Come on in. We're also going to actively support other local record shops. It's quite incredible. It becomes immediately believable that you are a pillar in your local community around music and this one niche. And they all overlap. They all go together and it seems like a ton of fun.
Mark:
Yeah, yeah. That's what Joelle and I kept saying too. As soon as the fun gets sucked out of it, we pull the plug. And that's what I've been saying with the store from day one too. If this becomes a chore and I have a day where, well, of course I have the days where I don't want to do it anymore, but if it becomes like, okay, am I considering keeping this going? If I start to consider that I'm pulling the plug? But so far everything we do, we're just doing it because we're having fun and it makes money every once in a while.
Kurt:
I had tweeted recently, I said, I just want to make cool stuff with my friends, and if I make money about it, I'm not mad.
Mark:
Yeah, exactly. It
Kurt:
Sounds like that's the approach here that just an incredible commitment to community involvement. Why is that strong community so vital for Funky mos?
Mark:
Well, first of all, like I said, it's fun. When Joel and I do things, we often have a five minute conversation. It's a lot of gut feeling and the community involvement, when we do the open stage, it's always presented by Funky Moose Records. It's always presented by Moose Fest and that name recognition artists are, like I said, artists are coming to us now asking, I want my album on vinyl. Can you help? Yes we can. We have the connections. We can put you in touch with pressing plants. We went through the process ourselves with one of her friends who wanted their EP on vinyl. So we helped them through the process. So we went through the process so we know what we're, I mean, we know what we're talking about. We know what to expect. That's one of the reasons people are coming to us and Funky Moose Records is vinyl. So people are also buying because they see the name Funky Moose Records in the city.
Kurt:
By keeping it local, then having this genuine involvement and investing in that local music scene really has been quite incredible for growing the brand, driving brand awareness, and then growing the business and making sales. So hindsight being 2020, let's imagine we are speaking to the folks who are really early in their journey. This is the hardest part, I think, not coming up with the idea and not building the store. It's just going from one to a hundred orders. How do you think you secured your first a hundred orders?
Mark:
So the first 10 to 25 was from that email list that it built. It was the little bit of community involvement that I had in the Facebook groups where I started mentioning it like, okay, there's a new online record store. If you're in a remote community or you're not close to a record store, you don't want to go out. We have a solution. That was step one. And then from 25 to 75 would be the SEO efforts, because from zero to 25, that's about the time it took for Google to pick up all the products that we had on the site. And in that time period, also keep adding records to the website. So that's the SEO efforts. And then from 75 to a hundred would be the ads.
Kurt:
Obviously you can't give away your SEO strategy, but high level, what are the steps? What are the pieces that go into that? It's like, is a lot of blog content backlink building? What's the approach?
Mark:
So backlink building is one of those phrases that I'm indifferent to. Yes, it's good to have backlinks from other sites, but I feel like you shouldn't be forcing those,
Kurt:
Right? Yeah, you get those spam requests.
Mark:
Yeah, I mean,
Kurt:
It turns into spam.
Mark:
If you write quality content, other websites will link to yours. So that's kind of what we started with. What I started with. I like writing.
Kurt:
That's a superpower. The folks who writing and have a website, immediately your life just got easier.
Mark:
And with chat GPT coming into play, it's a game changer. I'm not saying tell chat GPT to create a blog post and copy paste, but it is a very helpful tool where you tell it to create a blog post and then you fact check everything because Jet GPT doesn't always get it right, give it your own spin and then post it. So for the longest time in the past two years, I hired a blog writer and she wrote one blog posts per month, and it was a minimum of a thousand words, and that gained a lot of traction. So there was traffic to the site. They didn't convert necessarily directly into sales, but because those people are on the site now, you can retarget them. Obviously, if someone is on the site reading an article about storage solutions for your vinyl records, they're collecting records. So when you retarget them with either a Facebook or a Google ad, it's likely that they'll come back at some point in time. So yeah, that's one of the strategies. And then also the product titles are crucial. This is actually something in the last year, we built an app that synchronizes all inventory from our supplier with our websites, which means if our supplier has an album in stock, it'll appear on our website.
Kurt:
I mean, just a delight to have a supplier that has that information available in a programmatic way.
Mark:
Yep. Well, it's kind hacky, but it works. They have ACSV file and they gave us permission to log into an FTP server with, and the only thing on there is their CSV file. So then our developer pulls that CSV file to a Google Cloud, does gobbledygook with it, and then pushes it to Shopify. So every time there are new releases, every Friday, we push those onto our site and every three hours when an item goes out of stock at our supplier, it gets removed from our website.
Kurt:
That is nice.
Mark:
Yeah.
Kurt:
So you sync the inventory as well.
Mark:
Yes. So we went from about just under 4,000 records, new records on the site to over 10,000 or after we built the app.
Kurt:
And so now people who are Googling that are going to see those shopping ads, they're going to land on that site potentially because we've cast this very wide net with stuff you know could fulfill because that inventory gets updated so quickly.
Oh, I love that approach. It's technical. And so it's very dependent on like, alright, who are you getting the stuff from? What resources do they have available? And certainly some industries are better with this than others. If you're selling car parts in the last several years, they've really caught onto this. Versus if you're selling home goods, alright, you might have one in 10 suppliers who can do this for you, but I'm sure clothing suppliers, a lot of these folks can do it. Anyone in electronics just naturally will have stuff like this, but essentially they're like, Hey, here's a spreadsheet with everything that we know about our catalog updated regularly in one spot. Now it's on you to figure out what to do with that and you can totally make it work.
Mark:
Yeah, oh, for sure. And we got very lucky with our supplier because this is also one of those stories that I want to tell other store owners don't rely on one supplier. I don't remember the year exactly, but I want to say 2018, I received an email. They were our sole supplier. Those were the guys I'm getting the records from. I get an email from the CEO of the company, which who I never ever talked to stating, it's been a pleasure working with you, but as of today, we are shutting down operations and
Kurt:
Oh, no notice.
Mark:
Yeah, all orders, all open orders will be canceled as of tonight. And I, at that time, I still had a almost full-time job, and I remember grabbing my phone and seeing this email and I had to do a double take. I'm like, it's not April 1st, is it? There was a little bit of panic going on because things were ramping up and things were going well. And luckily because I'm always looking for a better deal, I also reached out to other suppliers in the past just to see if I could get a better price on records. Maybe their inventory is better, maybe I can get a better deal somewhere. But the supplier I was with had the better deal, but that's also probably why they went out of business in hindsight.
Kurt:
Of course.
Mark:
Yeah. So I reached out to two other suppliers saying that you probably heard, but your competitor went out of business today. Can we do something together? Both were very aware of the situation and they were like, we are stupid busy right now, we can't sign you up. I'm like, but
Kurt:
I
Mark:
Need records, so I can't just pull the plug. So one of them, I was hounding, I need records, fix this for me please. And eventually they said, okay, okay, I've already signed up, so let me see if I can activate the online account for you and then we should be able to go from there. But it was for them too. There were three suppliers in the whole country. One of 'em shutting down is a third of all the suppliers though, the other two saw a huge influx of new customers showing up.
Kurt:
They were overwhelmed and blindsided as well, just in a different, less horrifying way.
Mark:
And so I was very open with my customers from the get-go, I sent an email out to everybody like, look, this is the situation. I just got this email. I don't know what I'm going to do yet, but keep your order. We'll make sure that this is going to work out. I'll fulfill whatever I can from inventory that we have or what I can get from another supplier. If the price changes, I'll eat that difference. It's not your fault. There were a few people that canceled because they were not too sure what was going on. Of course. I mean,
Kurt:
Yeah, you're going to lose sound. That
Mark:
Happens. Yeah, exactly. But most of them were very appreciative of the openness about the whole situation. So they kept their order. They have to wait a little longer, but eventually they got their order and that's actually the supplier I'm with now. So supplier gave us the ability to log into an FTP and gave us the CSV file, et cetera.
Kurt:
Yeah. Ultimately it turned out to be a blessing in disguise, even if it was, there would've been sleepless nights, I'm sure when that happened.
Mark:
And this is the thing, I had a full-time job at the time, so it wasn't a complete panic. It was a situation where it's like, okay, if I need to refund all of these orders, I can make that work. And if I have to shut down, so be it. So sleepless nights, maybe not because I had that job as a backup, but that's not what I wanted to do. The job was means to an end, so to speak.
Kurt:
Yeah, no, I think a lot of people can relate to that.
Mark:
And then the same situation was when Covid hit, everybody got the notification that all businesses have to be shut down right now. And that's when things really started booming for us because all the brick and mortar stores had to shut down, which means record collectors are a rare breed, but they still want their records and everybody was home. So everybody wanted more records. And the only real option next to the big box retailer was Funky Moose Records. So 2021 were very good years for us. And then of course after the pandemic slowed down, all the brick and mortar stores opened up. So now we see a little bit of a slowdown in sales, but we mitigate that with the inventory synchronization
Kurt:
Come to the end of our time together. I want your advice for newbies for people just starting out. What's the thing that you would advise someone, Hey, do this to make sure your store stands out or do this to make sure you get that early sales and success?
Mark:
What I would do, what I didn't do the first time and I learned from, is that I didn't really have a good overview of the money that I was spending versus the money that was in. So I was breaking even and losing money for the first two years. And that was all due to the fact I had a full-time job, so I was really paying attention. But it was like now in hindsight, I could have done better. I spent too much on things that I shouldn't have spent money on in hindsight. But yeah, watch your cashflow. If your cashflow goes away, your business is going to be struggling.
Kurt:
Absolutely. And where can we find more about you?
Mark:
Well, the store itself is funky moose records.ca or.com, depending on where you are. You can also check out Funky moose digital.ca. That's my digital marketing website. And if you want to look me up on Instagram, it's Mark Dots poppin. That's M-A-R-K-P-O-P-P-E-N. You can also find Funky Moose Audio, that's the incorporated name. Funky Moose Audio on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, wherever you go. Social.
Kurt:
Very good. Well, thank you Mark so much. I enjoyed this and alright. What's on your turntable right now?
Mark:
Right now, queen? Yeah, I don't know which one. I see it's a Queen, queen album.
Kurt:
There's no wrong choice.
Mark:
No.
Kurt:
With Queen, no, exactly. For us, I believe my wife has had the Barbie soundtrack, which there's two versions of it. She has the pink one. I don't know the difference I'm told, and I'm pretty sure that's been just like in just going on Loop for the last four weeks.
Mark:
Great.
Kurt:
She loves it. Yeah, after a while I'm like, maybe listen to something else. Yeah, nevermind. It's not my room, it's fine. Alright, Mark Poppen, funky Moose Records. Thank you so much.
Mark:
Thanks Kurt.